The
leadership crisis rocking the Peoples Democratic Party took a new turn
last week with the Appeal Court judgment sacking the Ahmed Makarafi-led
faction and recognising the Ali Modu Sheriff faction as the authentic
national leadership of the party. However, the governors, who
spearheaded the emergence of Sheriff into the PDP top echelon led by
Governor Ayo Fayose of Ekiti State, immediately rejected the court
ruling and threatened to seek redress at the Supreme Court, throwing the
party into more confusion and turmoil in the process.
But while
that remains the position of the governors, the Senator representing
former President Goodluck Jonathan, Ben Murray-Bruce, throws his weight
behind Sheriff, saying that it was futile to continue to engage in
needless fight for supremacy when the party’s fortunes were dwindling,
and its chances of winning election threatened as the crisis lingers.
According
to Murray-Bruce, his support is not about Modu Sheriff but the survival
of the PDP as a veritable opposition party that can drive out the
ruling party in 2019. Excerpts:
By Soni Daniel, Northern Region Editor
What
do you make of the Appeal Court judgment recognising Sheriff as the
authentic PDP National Chairman and rejecting Ahmed Makarfi?
Look,
let me tell you that I am not supporting Sheriff as such, but my own
interest is how to resolve the crisis we have at hand and move on in the
interest of the party and its members.
My support is not about
Sheriff but the overall interest of our party. It is not about majority
or minority in this case but the future and interest of our party.
We
have been in crisis for about two years now, and we have been fighting
each other, and we don’t have a leadership for the party. In the last
two years of our crisis, we have lost no fewer than four of our senators
to the opposition.
They have defected to the APC, and we cannot
declare their seats vacant because they cite the current crisis in the
PDP as the basis of their defection. My position, therefore, is to
preserve the party from destruction.
If we continue like
this, and we go on appeal to the Supreme Court, and the court delays the
case until a few weeks to the next election as in the case of the Ondo
Governorship election, we would have destroyed our chances of taking
over power from the APC, which appears not to have answers to our
national problems. We would have lost everything.
it is better we
come together now to resolve the crisis. We can work together and have a
convention and produce new leaders because Sheriff’s tenure ends this
year nonetheless. If the likes of Lai Mohammed had been in PDP, he would
have destroyed the APC.
When they were in the opposition they
did not give the PDP a breathing space, but today the likes of Lai
Mohammed are saints, playing golf and enjoying life while the PDP
grapples with an internal crisis of leadership. We must do everything
possible to bring the crisis to an end so as to save our great party
from extinction. That is what I stand for and not for any human being.
But
it would appear that the PDP leaders who met in Abuja last week to
review the development decided to appeal the judgment and stick with
Makarfi. Does this augur well for democracy and your party?
There
is no way I would disagree with Prof Jerry Gana on this matter.
Everyone says we should go to court, but if we continue to fight and it
ends up like Ondo case, everyone loses. Let them come together and have a
joint convention and elect new leaders for the party and let us have
peace.
Sheriff is the chairman, and it does not serve anyone’s
interest if the problem continues. If we ignore Sheriff and pick Ahmed
Makarfi, we lose their votes and supporters, and if we stand with
Makarfi and reject Sheriff, we are sure to lose his supporters and their
votes.
So, it is a very serious problem, which must be resolved
with tact, understanding, and cooperation of all the parties involved in
the interest of the party. We don’t need to destroy each other, but we
need to win the election in 2019.
APC won because they came
together and formed a coalition. If we fight on like this, we will lose.
I am looking at the bigger picture. They should come together and
ensure fair play during the convention, and I believe we will get
through.
Your own position seems to tally with that of former
President Goodluck Jonathan, who met with Sheriff immediately after the
court verdict and described him as a leader of the party.
I agree
with former President Jonathan as the leader of the party and as his
senator, and he wants peace and nothing more. The former president knows
what is wrong and how to resolve the leadership logjam and we should
see it from that perspective and join hands with him and other party
leaders to steer the party off the path of danger which will neither
help anyone in the end.
Before you went to the Senate, you had so many lofty ideas. What are you doing to bring them to reality?
Yes,
I am working hard to bring out many bills for the overall interest of
Nigerians. I have many bills, and very soon they will be presented to
the Senate.
One of the bills on clean energy if passed
into law would make every community to enjoy steady power supply from
solar and other sources apart from gas. Another of my bills is the
Illegal Refinery Legalization Bill, which the vice president spoke about
when he went to the Niger Delta recently. I am expecting the presidency
to write me a cheque for taking my idea.
The illegal refineries
should be legalised, and it will help the country get out of the current
problems. The people doing illegal refining should be given the
go-ahead to refine, pay tax to the government and earn a meaningful
living. Under the arrangement, the NNPC should sell crude to the
illegal refiners to prevent them from breaking pipelines and stealing
the crude.
I believe strongly that if this is done it would go a
long way in checkmating the destruction of oil facilities and stealing
of crude currently going on in the creeks now.
Also, this measure
would confer legitimacy on them as genuine businessmen and make them
contribute their quota to national development instead of embarking on
criminality for mere survival.
Why do you think that there is too much hardship in the land?
The answer is simply because the government is not being led by Buhari and is not being led by Osinbajo.
They
have people leading the government from behind. The vice president that
I know is a good man and is quite a wonderful human being. Osinbajo is
not the problem.
There are people pushing this government for their own personal and selfish interests.
Things
are not working well because the people have not applied the proper
measures and policies to propel the country out of recession.
What
they are doing cannot end the recession. A budget during recession must
be different from the one that should be operated when an economy is
doing well.
This government cannot run the same type of economic
policies that the Jonathan administration used because the times are not
the same. This government needs the smartest people to run this
economy.
But the argument is that this government inherited the
economic problems from the previous one and is, therefore, a child of
circumstance.
No, that will not suffice anymore because if you
recall, in 1999 when Obasanjo and Atiku took over the reins of power,
they quietly recovered over $4 billion from those who had stolen money
and put it in the system, and nobody heard about it.
I want you
to know that the current recession is caused by a cabal working for
their selfish interest and a gamut of poor economic policies and they
are going to get worse because the brains that should run the economy
are not there.
That is why Osinbajo must take charge of this
economy because I want this government to succeed so that we can have
something to take over in 2019. It is certain Nigerians will reject APC
in 2019 and PDP is surely going to take over. We will beat APC any day,
and they must leave.
So, you are satisfied the way the PDP ran the country, and you don’t see anything wrong with the PDP?
I
do not want to go into the debate of whether the PDP ran Nigeria well
or not but let me say that the biggest problem with Nigeria is that the
leaders continue to think and behave as if we were still in 1945 and
they don’t think ahead.
They have no long-term plan, and no value
chain and they make statements that don’t make sense. These guys cannot
succeed in a private company as is the case elsewhere. You need
worldwide experience to run a country.
A country is a business.
But in Nigeria, there is no technology policy, no master plan for anything but a yearly budget that is poorly implemented.
There
is no follow through to any policy, but the leaders and government
officials continue to make broad statements that make no sense. These
guys would not survive in any private company like General Motors,
Pepsi, Coca-Cola worldwide, etc.
So, where do we go from here?
It
is simple: Osinbajo must take charge of the country and do away with
the cabal that is trying to ruin the country for their selfish interest.
History will not be kind to Osinbajo if he sits there for the cabal to
destroy Nigeria.
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